Some Discovered in Mexico
In an interview with SanJoseInside.com late last night, Governor Schwarzenegger reiterated his frustration with Republican legislators by announcing that he had hunted down, captured and dragged several GOP members back to the Capitol to face the $15.2 billion budget shortfall.
“When I said they were hiding, I didn’t mean it literally,” he admitted.
Several were found in Mexico under assumed names, others were posing as lobbyists, and two, including Jim Beall, were found under the back seat of the Governor’s Hummer.
“I wondered why my gas mileage was so bad,” said the Governor.
Vowing to pass the budget one way or another, he has threatened to veto all other legislation until a budget is delivered. Furthermore, Schwarzenegger said he is willing to cut a finger off of a Republican lawmaker every day the standoff drags into the Fall.
“If it bleeds, you can kill it,” he warned.
Someone tell Governor Schwarzenegger that if there are still some missing Republicans to take his search to Alaska. One or more of them might be up there prospecting for a job. I understand a top spot could soon become available, a position that doesn’t require any real experience but is now recognized as a stepping stone to the vice-presidency.
Excuse me for breaking away from Tom’s comments, but I found it compelling to state my feelings on the coverage of the roll out of the VP for McCain in the Republican Party. When the cameras panned the audience gathered, I noticed there was only a sea of white faces. Does this give anyone else a chilling feeling or room to pause and think. I didn’t see any Black, Tan, Red, Yellow or any other faces in the crowd. And this is supposed to be a party that purports to represent the American People. I think America better wake up and smell the roses and not be fooled by these people.
Concerned Citizen
Well let’s think about that.
Dayton, Ohio demographics are roughly half white and half black. http://dayton.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
Say you’re african-american and have a chance to vote for the first black president of any Western country in history. Would you be at a McCain campaign rally? Probably not.
Would it have made you happier if they’d have bus’ed in minority quotas even though those quotas don’t represent Dayton?
No. Instead you’d most likely be screaming ‘foul’ at the top of your race-baiting lungs.
#2
Where have you been?
In the last half of the 20th century, and so far in this century, the Republican Party has been the party of the grumpy old white man. Any demographic in the Republican party other than a grumpy old white man has simply been a token for show.
Dan Quayle move over. . .
Sarah Palin for Vice President?
What happens if Ms. Palin ever has to meet Mr. Putin? Not since Dan Quayle has there been a VP Candidate less ready to be President of the United States. But even Quayle had “some” exposure to national and international issues.
From the Home of Ted Stevens who is under indictment and believes the internet is a bunch of “tubes”—we give you Moose Burger eating Sarah Palin.
McCain cynically believes that the Clinton supporters believe “any woman” can be President. The Clinton supporters may be disappointed, but they are not stupid.
McCain might as well have Paris Hilton on the ticket.
In addition, welcome to this little ditty regarding Palin:
More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska’s public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.
The details of the domestic dispute between her sister and former husband—and her role in retaliation will be a distraction extraordinaire. In addition, the good old boys who run the GOP must be speechless. . .
John just HAS to get his kicks by adding Jim Beall to the story even though it doesn’t make a bit of sense as he’s not a Republican.
#5 Rich: Now there you go again, selling this great American short.
Not only is Barbie Palin the 1st-term Governor of a state best known for dog sled races, you conveniently overlooked her previous political experience on the Wasilla, Alaska City Council. While serving the proud city of Wasilla she rose to the rank of Mayor over the thriving metropolis of at least 6,000 people, 14 polar bears (white, of course) and several moose.
You also do not give her credit for being a former Miss Wasilla, and runner-up as Miss Alaska.
I ask you, Mr. Robinson, if it came down to a swim suit competition against Al Queda who would you rather have on your side, Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?
Finally, unlike Dan Quayle the Republican vetting machine made damn sure Palin can spell “potato.” That, a flag pin in the lapel, and being pro-life is pretty much all the qualifications it takes. Case in point: George W. Bush.
Clearly Palin is highly qualified to be a heartbeat away from the president. In fact, she dots her “i’s” with little hearts!
So buzz off, Mr. Liberal Smartypants. It’s high time we had a Lady (as opposed to a wo-man) in the White House. After all, SOMEBODY’S got to bring the boys coffee during those important meetings!
It would be funny if the California Legislature was not so dysfunctional and harmful to all Californians and themselves
Take dysfunctional family definition and substitute “legislature” for “family” “parents” for “leaders” etc
A dysfunctional legislature is a group in which conflict, misbehavior and even abuse on the part of individual legislature leaders and other legislators occurs continually, leading other members to accommodate such actions.
New legislators come to believe that such an legislature behavior is normal.
Dysfunctional legislatures are most often a result of the alcoholism, substance abuse, or power other addictions, legislature leaders untreated mental illnesses/defects or personality disorders, or the legislators parents emulating their own dysfunctional party leaders and dysfunctional legislature experiences.
Violence and verbal abuse are typical outcomes. Choosing one or more of an appropriate twelve-step program has been found to be of great help to all the legislators involved.
I thought this thread was about our budget and the Governator, Rich.
Rich # 5—congratulations on being the first to dig up some dirt on Ms. Palin. Angling for an Obama campaign job? They stopped vetting her when she spelled tomato correctly.
#7—the moose are brown. So, #2, should Ms. Palin have brought a few to Dayton to satisfy your desire for crowds empircally made up of the exact % of each race in the population of Dayton?
“McCain might as well have Paris Hilton on the ticket.”
“Any demographic in the Republican party other than a grumpy old white man has simply been a token for show.” (someone please pass this missive along to Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and Clarence Thomas)
“Clearly Palin is highly qualified to be a heartbeat away from the president. In fact, she dots her “i’s” with little hearts!”
“It’s high time we had a Lady (as opposed to a wo-man) in the White House. After all, SOMEBODY’S got to bring the boys coffee during those important meetings!”
Anybody see a trend with these comments?
Jack, I’m stunned that you would allow such misogynistic, racist, comments on the hallowed pages of SJI.
Viva Fidel!
#9: Alas, she ate the moose.
http://wonkette.com/224667/sarah-palin-totally-eats-moose-burger
#5 & #7- Yep. All those folks up in Alaska ARE a bunch of moose-huntin’, ice-fishin’ hicks. And we’re not sterotypin’ now are we, ‘cause we’re enlightened, big city liberals and we don’t do that sort of thing.
What absolute effete elitism!
Mr. Galt,
It’s about time we had some elitism around here. GWB was a beer guzzling, common man who chews, scratches and spits tobacco.
But should we not have a President who is educated, artculate, and has some ability?
Maybe having a Harvard graduate—who got in on his own merit—might be a good thing for this country.
But I confess, I have a little empathy for poor Ms. Palin. She has no idea what is about to happen to her. And shame on John McCain for asking her to endure it.
Dan Quayle in a dress—that’s how one reporter analyzed the choice. And that is just the beginning.
#2 experienced a “chilling feeling” at the sight of an all-white gathering of Republicans.
I don’t know Concerned Citizen’s skin color, but I know pure racism when I see it. A gathering of people who share a political perspective should present the critic with an opportunity to challenge their politics or behavior, not their skin color. Concerned Citizen did not offer any explanation for his/her reaction, but there is simply nothing going on in America today that would explain why a mentally-stable person would become frightened at the sight of an assembly of mainstream white people. For those of you who also experienced that chilling feeling, or understand the logic not included in the post, then I remind you that it was a whites only collection of people who raised presidential candidate Barrack Obama.
So tell me, Concerned Citizen: does the product of that small puddle of white faces scare you?
Rich, follow me on this one – it’s spelled “articulate”.
But don’t take my word for it. Let’s go to an expert on articulate-ness. Let’s ask Joe Biden.
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
As for elitism we have that by the truck load with Obama. “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?”
Yep. Palin’s in way over her head with these 2.
This just in from the republican leadership in Alaska. . .
Even in Alaska, the reaction was mixed. Republican House Speaker John Harris didn’t much want to discuss Palin’s qualifications for the nation’s second-highest office.
“She’s old enough,” Harris said. “She’s a U.S. citizen.”
State Senate President Lyda Green, another Wasilla Republican but a longtime Palin foe, had a sharper tongue.
“She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?”
So at least the articulate, moose-hunin’, ice fishing hicks in Alaska know she is not qualified—
Those damn elitists
damayor,
The arrogance of your post is exceeded only by your dementia.
Exhibit A: Your declaration regarding the correlation of skin color to unique experiences, something you state has been well researched and validated.
In the context of my criticism of Concerned Citizen’s post, the uniqueness of the group members’ experiences was not the issue. The group had assembled because of their commonality, specifically their embrace of a particular candidate—a candidate that had been selected by the votes of party members across the nation. Like him or not, John McCain won the nomination by appealing to great numbers of people who have, believe it or not, lived unique lives, experienced independent thoughts, and probably came to support John McCain through a process of measured compromise.
That you would even feel the need to make such a declaration suggests that, like Concerned Citizen, you too equate a gathering of white people as a threat, due either to their motives or lack of diversity.
Exhibit B: You ask, “how can one entrust the future of this country to a party that has not been able to incorporate the broad views and wisdom of america’s constituents…?”
Your question implies that the Democratic Party has incorporated the broad views and wisdom of the American public. I guess that depends on whose views and what wisdom you’re talking about. To the best of my knowledge most Americans have long wanted safe streets, decent health care, solvency in the social security system, good public schools, impartial law enforcement, and its government to avoid unnecessary wars. Since none of those desires have been incorporated into our system regardless of which party was in power, please tell me about the ones you’re talking about.
Exhibit C: You cite the obvious demographic shifts and then warn of the growing disparity, risk of clashes, etc., if the Republican Party doesn’t change.
The demographic shifts you cite played a pivotal role in brokering the horrific marriage of the Christian coalition and the Neocons in the first place, as religious conservatives coalesced in defense of their values and cultural traditions and offered their hand to the duplicitous Neocons—who promised family values and a place at the table all the while planning hegemony and endless war. The conservative zealousness you condemn was powered by the reckless ignorance of our immigration policies, the very thing that fed the demographic swing that you today admit is a looming threat to our cohesiveness.
Let’s all remember Ted Kennedy’s words as he spoke in support of the Hart-Celler Act, a bill by Democrats and passed into law during the Johnson administration:
“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…. Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think….”
Exhibit D: You imply that the all-white group (homogenous) observed by Concerned Citizen is an accurate depiction of the Republican Party—which it is not, then go on to equate its existence with apartheid.
About what other Americans are you willing to make such suggestions? Would you say it about Jews, Asians, Hispanics, Blacks? Let me save you from having to type your answer: No, No, No, No. But about whites, specifically Republican whites, there are no holds barred. They can’t even assemble to participate in the democratic process without having deranged liberals accuse them of plotting to separate the races. My god, how they scare you.
Maybe you would like to fence them all in?
frustrated finfan:
your ratio of critical thinking to words typed is awefully low tonight.
i ask that you do the work before posting to save the rest of us the unnecessary frustration of beginning to read only to realize we’ve been duped by another lazy poster…
but to jumpstart your noggin:
i believe #2’s hyperbole is a bit over the top. but it seems he/she is suggesting the following: the lack of broad representation at the VP announcement reflects the GOP’s chronic inability to develop a republican platform that draws from the experiences of a broad swath of americans, some experiences of which are often inextricably linked to their skin color; and that this is scary.
there’s no need to argue whether one’s skin color is correlated to ones unique experiences in the world since there are at least 40 years of research—quantitative and qualitative—that validates this. so please move on.
to narrow the charge, his/ her fear is in the legitimate question: how can one entrust the future of this country to a party that has not been able to incorporate the broad views and wisdom of america’s constituents, particularly in light of the recent census data that underscores the obvious demographical shifts taking place in this nation. if there is a danger in allowing this party to take office AGAIN, it is in allowing them to continue to ignore the widening disparity, growing clashes, mounting misunderstandings, and heightening xenophobia that may very well end up in a violent rupture that nobody wants. This, indeed, is worth fear. the exclusive, elitist, zealous views that the republicans have not been willing to shake since the rise of the christian coalition and the acceptance of neocon ideology is now coming home to roost. and whether one is black or white or maroon, it does not bode well if that organization’s poison is allowed to spread beyond the city limits of the twin cities.
so, is #2 being racist? or is he/she merely pointing out that it’s one thing to have a local club of like-minded folks who share the same values like, say, a couples for christ group, it’s another to trust such a homogenous group to run one of the most diverse—ethnically, economically, religiously, and educationally—countries in the world.
that’s been done before with no success: it’s called apartheid. or in more tender terms, colonization.
afraid? you might want to reconsider.
“McCain picked in Palin someone who has taken on the corruption in the GOP in Alaska, turned against her own party’s establishment, and fought for reform.”
Small wonder the republican big shots in Alaska gave less than enthusiastic endorsements to Palin.
Care to guess who the quote’s from? Why none other than our very own Joe Trippi.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/31/opinion/main4401887.shtml
Trippi makes another excellent point.
“The McCain/Palin duo will challenge Barack Obama’s claim of “a new kind of politics” and chastise Obama and Democratic vice presidential Nominee, Joe Biden, for their “silence” in taking on corruption in their own party in Illinois, Delaware and Washington, DC.”
Here’s a taste of how hope-and-change Obama spent his 8 years as state legislator.
“Rezko, after all, built part of his fortune by exploiting the black community that Obama had served in the state Senate, and by milking government programs meant to benefit black-owned businesses. But Obama took Rezko’s money even after the businessman was sued by the city of Chicago for failing to heat his low-income apartments, and even after Rezko was caught using a black business partner to obtain a minority set-aside for a fast-food franchise at O’Hare Airport.”
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/02/01/rezko/index1.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/the_everpresent_obama.html
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGRiMWFhNWY4MTgzMjI3NjEzNGQwMWFiMTlhYmRhN2Y=
Funny how the news media has yet to pick up on this stuff. I’m expecting a hard hitting 60 Minutes expose any day now.
Good one, Novice. You cite numerous reports on an item and then wonder when anybody will report on it. How many reports constitute “coverage” for you?
#19, Novice: Actually, “60 Minutes” talked about the Rezko issues during last night’s profile of Obama. The issue has been and will no doubt continue to be reported throughout the campaign.
Don’t believe me? Just go to Google News and query the word “Rezko.” EVERY major news organizations has run Rezko stories. So much for the supposed media cover-up!
Don’t worry Novice, there’s enough dirt for everybody in this campaign. Obama has Rezko, McCain has his drug addicted wife’s DEA investigation for getting caught swiping pain pills from the nonprofit she headed. But is that what this campaign should really be about?
Who knows? In between Swift Boat ads there might even be some discussion of actual issues during this campaign. That would be refreshing. Rare, but refreshing.
Hey, maybe the great media conspiracy will even cover the birth of Palin’s unmarried 17-year-old daughter’s baby. That would be a pretty good story for her anti-sex ed Mom, don’t ya think, Novice?
Ok. I just endured 15 minutes of last nights 60 minutes Obama/Biden interview
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/30/60minutes/main4400811.shtml
Not one mention of Rezko. Or Ayers. Or Jermiah Wright. Or Father Phleger. Or ACORN. Or the fact that his grandparents and parents were communists. Or…
Not one mention.
Contrast this with:
– 60 Minutes/Dan Rather’s “fake but accurate” National Guard story in an attempt to swing the 2004 election to Kerry.
– Did you know Palin’s husband had DUI 22 years ago?
– Did you know Palin’s daughter is pregnant?
The news media’s non-vetting of this man who would be President is a complete abdication of their code of ethics and completely trashes what little credibility ‘journalists’ may have had.
“The Honolulu Star-Bulletin attracted attention with a report stressing the convention’s unabashed enthusiasm for the visiting politician. “When Obama walked on stage,” the newspaper reported, “many journalists in the audience leapt to their feet and applauded enthusiastically after being told not to do so. During a two-minute break halfway through the event . . . journalists ran to the stage to snap photos of Obama.”
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=26294
Oh, my god! I had no idea journalists were taking “snap photos” of Obama. If that doesn’t prove the vast media conspiracy then I don’t know what does.
There is crappy reporting on all sides. No party or side has an exclusive on this.
I guess Novice forgets the swiftboating of Kerry, the attempted lynching of Clinton for issues far less serious than those committed by this Administration for which they have not been held accountable for, the attacks on Max Cleland, etc. etc. You think there was balanced reporting in those instances? It plays both ways, it’s just that the Right is better at it and a gullible public gobbles it up.
I guess you should feel proud, Novice.
#23, Novice: You can’t be serious. We must not have watched the same “60 Minutes” program.
The one that aired on CBS last included discussion of Obama’s Rezko connection in which they focused on the Hyde Park home Obama bought with help from Rezko.
Also, contrary to your assertion that “not one word” was said about Rev. Wright, there was quite a lot said, including the airing of some of the infamous videos that have become so controversial.
As for your mention of Palin’s unmarried 17-year old, her husband’s DUI bust or the supposition that Obama’s grandparents were Communist…let’s just say that as voters we will be asked to vote for the candidates, not their families.
I prefer to believe that both Obama and Palin are people of integrity whose positions on the issues and their track records should be our focus. This guilt-by-association brand of politics is for those who are too intellectually lazy to explore the real issues.
Others, however, seem to be anxious for a full “vetting” of whatever rumors and innuendos the political operatives of both parties post on the internet.
That’s what passes for politics in 2008.
I respectfully disagree MC.
Rethinking the History and Future of the Communist Party
“… in Hawaii was an African-American poet and journalist by the name of Frank Marshall Davis, who was certainly in the orbit of the CP – if not a member – and who was born in Kansas and spent a good deal of his adult life in Chicago, before decamping to Honolulu in 1948 at the suggestion of his good friend Paul Robeson. Eventually, he befriended another family – a Euro-American family – that had migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago. In his best selling memoir ‘Dreams of my Father’, the author speaks warmly of an older black poet, he identifies simply as “Frank” as being a decisive influence in helping him to find his present identity as an African-American
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/5047/1/32/
Don’t know about you but I’d like to know how decisive and how influential a communist poet had in shaping Obama during his formative years in Hawaii.
And Obama’s self-proclaimed ‘spiritual mentor’ turns out to be America hating radical Jeremiah Wright.
And then it turns out these hate Father Phleger/Jeremiah Wright hate America churches were Obama’s political base in Chicago.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/02/opinion/main4145761.shtml
Throw in the long term William Ayers association, the Michelle “this is the first time in my life I’ve ever been proud of this country” quote, etc. etc. and you have a good composite of where Obama is coming from.
Here’s hoping that the people in this country see through the high gloss hope-and-change facade – soon.